Shared Topics: What Causes an Encounter to “Click” and Digging Archeology?

If you’ve ever done a difficult instance or fought a raid boss, you’ve struggled at some point. You’ve wiped and wiped again. You’ve thought to yourself “how can anyone actually beat this?” But, many many tries and a few kills later, you stop and wonder how you ever struggled with the fight. That, friends, is what happens when you learn. But how does that learning process work? Naithin from Fun in Games suggested that, as a Shared Topic, we talk about that boss learning process.

I think that in the vast majority of Cataclysm encounters — raids in particular, but I think the same is true to a degree for heroic encounters too — are getting easier by some factor other than gear. You may disagree on that point, perhaps, but if so why?

Now the obvious answer besides gear is just practice. Practice makes perfect and all that. But why is it that certain encounters start out feeling almost impossible. You seem to be hitting your head against a brick wall, unable to make even a dent in the progression of this encounter. Depending on how long you go through that phase, it may even begin to feel a bit disheartening and then… Then progress is made. It starts to feel possible. You down it.

A little later, even just a week or two later, you can’t imagine ever having difficulty on such an easy encounter. Anyone wiping to this must be a noob!

What happened to get from one point to another?

Participating were:

Naithin from Fun in Games

Unglar from Shredding Attacks

Morynne from Mark-365

Gazimoff from Mana Obscura

Fealen from Cow and Bones

Sharden from 15 Minutes of WoW

The second Topic is about our new profession: Archeology. Ringo Flinthammer of Flinthammer Hall pointed out that it was high time that we Share our impressions.

Cataclysm’s new secondary profession, archeology, has gone through a lot of changes since it was first announced — Path of the Titans, we hardly knew you! — but is incredibly popular with players. At least, a lot of them are doing it — there are also a lot of complaints. Still, go to any dig site and you’ll see tons of eager archeologists. What do you think of it? Did Blizzard release it half-baked? Are you happy with its current implementation? What else do you hope to have added to it in future patches?

Sharing were:

Rustbeard from Little Blue Dog

Iggep from Iggep’s Realm

Naithin from Fun in Games

Kamalia from Kamalia et alia

Pea from Target Dummies

Kallixta from Kallixta’s Notes

Windsoar from Jaded Alt

Fannon from Dwarven Battle Medic

Saithir from The Angry Dwarfs

Lady Erinia from Moments in the Life of a Death Knight

Next week, think about what you’d like to change about WoW. What would you like to add, to erase, to bring back and so on? Blog about it and share a link to your post in our thread at Blog Azeroth!

And here’s a sneak peak at some upcoming Topics:
When Good Guildies Go Bad
Future Cataclysm content patches
What is your favorite weapon?

Resource Site Spotlight –

This past week on TIPOAA (The Incredible Podcast of Amazing Awesomeness) Mike and Turpster had an email from a listener who said that since “Whats the Mats” closed down (Whats the Mats was a database site for warcraft craftables) he or she had been looking for a site to replace it’s functionality. They gave a try, and said that it has been updated for Cataclysm, and though the site is in beta, it looks to be a nicely working database focusing specifically on craftables in World of Warcraft.

There isn’t a great deal one could write on a site like this. What it does is streamlines the gargantuan database of World of Warcraft items and quests and the like, and presents to you your search answers limited to the materials needed for crafting items in game.

If you were a fan of “Whats the Mats” than you should certainly enjoy

It is in beta still, but looks to be functioning properly. I haven’t tested it fully, in truth because I do not have any crafting skills to Cataclysm levels yet.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, the screenshot is my bank alt, there are very few graphics on that would work well as a screenshot for the article 🙂



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TNB Live Saturday 2/5 – Scott Johnson from The Instance

TheInstance Good <insert part of day here> you fine folk twisting in the Nether (via Rilandune)! We’re happy to welcome Scott Johnson of The Instance podcast (and MyExtralife and well, lots of stuff over at Frogpants Sudios) to the show.

I’m sure you have a ton of questions you’d like us to ask Scott, so make sure to submit those to . Also, don’t forget to hang out with us in the live chatroom!

  • When is it?: This live show is scheduled for Saturday, February 5th at 8pm PT (11pm ET). Not sure what time that is for you? Use this handy-dandy time converter!
  • Where do I go? To participate on the live show, you will need to go to the TNB Live Show page to connect with the stream. See, totally easy. If you are having issues then go to the Ustream page. Don’t forget to register/login to UStream so you can chat with us!
  • Some general ground rules:
    1. Be nice. If you say very inappropriate things be aware you will be kicked from the room. We are doing this to have a great time, come with a beer, come during a raid, come how you wish, just don’t come to cause trouble.
    2. You may ask questions to the participants during the show, but we reserve the right to use them if and when we can. We will be monitoring the chat room and if we can we will use the comments during the show. We love that you are with us, but we will have to weave them in. Even if it isn’t asked, we all appreciate your questions!

Outside of that, we will love to have you join us and partake in an enlightening discussion that is sure to follow! Hope to see you there!

Episode 116 – Curse of the Nether

logo-curse Our special guest this week is Kody from Curse! He’s the Lead Editor there and has some great insights into the origin of Curse and all the projects they have taken on including Wowstead. We then somehow find the ability to spend almost an hour on the news this week (surprise!) and a very long list of new sites introduced on Blog Azeroth. Don’t miss it!

Make sure you listen to the whole interview to find out you might be able to get a little something special from Kody and Curse! Limited supply, so download and listen now!

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Netherhood Welcome Wagon – Zoxy of Trading with Zoxy!

Hello Everyone!  I’d like you to join me in welcoming Zoxy from Trading With Zoxy!

Zoxy started playing WoW about halfway through Wrath of the Lich King.  Having come from EVE Online and being a prolific trader there, he decided that he wasn’t going to get into the Auction House game in WoW because he wanted something fresh and different in a game.  He played WoW for a bit, and then ventured off into LotRO – but the lure of Cataclysm brought him back.  When he returned to WoW he decided that he was going to turn the 3,000 gold he had on his account into 100,000 gold.

Zoxy decided that he wanted to offer feedback to the community on what gold methods were working for him and what were not.  Offering tips and tricks that he found useful – and also sharing things that didn’t work out quite so well.  Of course, what would an experiment be without chronicling the journey along the way? Including thoughts on what draws him into the gold making game.

If you are interested in making gold, you will find all sorts of resources from making gold with limited playtime to what kinds of things have been hot on the Auction House since Cataclysm’s release. He offers advice on several add-ons to help you work the Auction House. You will also find some great information on how to better understand your realm’s economy and on utilizing the mobile Auction House to maximize your auctions.

Zoxy tells us that we can expect more gold making tips and insights on his shenanigans as he continues to work his way towards mastering the Auction House!  I don’t know about you – but my (very stylish, yet very poor) bank alt is certainly looking forward to learning more!

Welcome to the Blogosphere, Zoxy!

Every Tuesday, Beruthiel from Falling Leaves and Wings is bringing you the Welcome Wagon, introducing new bloggers and great reads. If you know of a new blog to the scene or wish to get your name out there, please send an email to, with the subject line “Welcome Wagon.” She’ll do her best to highlight as many as possible!